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MARSHALL SUPA FUZZES (Data Dump)
Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 4:29 pm
by Graham
Re: MARSHALL SUPA FUZZES
Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 5:57 am
by theemadcap1
Absolutely!
Here is the beauty queen!!
If I post this...Graham...you
gotta post some pics of that sick 'proto-type-ish' Vox TB Pro MKII!!!
Be a good reference to this one!
Helloo Betty!! Just as I got her. Came from 'straight out of the Netherlands' (naturally!)
What are those unmarked transistors? Probably OC81Ds, because there has never been another Sola sound made MKII-type pedal that used anything but Mullard OC75 or OC81D transistors.
Waiting for a new Lithium PP4 battery and then I am going to take some new pictures, a la Graham, a full spread; to capture her curves and details...(ooofff...is that a coppertop Alkaline battery!?!? I didn't know better! Contacted the original owner, he looked around and found the original PP4 battery terminals!!)
Maybe under black light there will be secret messages from Gary Hurst!
Re: MARSHALL SUPA FUZZES
Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 9:58 am
by tatter
Excellent photos. I'm really interested in the Supa Fuzz Dave mentions in the Tone Bender History page which has the original Tonebender MKI circuit but with a crude tone/filter control. Would i be right in thinking that you own one of these Graham?
Also it's a shame that the guy selling the 5K OC81 Supa Fuzz on ebay hasn't posted pictures of the underside of his circuit board. IF (and it's a big if) they are original it would be quite a significant variation and possibly suggest that the unmarked transistors on theemadcap1's supa fuzz are also OC81 instead of OC81D?
Re: MARSHALL SUPA FUZZES
Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2008 4:18 am
by Graham
tatter wrote:Excellent photos. I'm really interested in the Supa Fuzz Dave mentions in the Tone Bender History page which has the original Tonebender MKI circuit but with a crude tone/filter control. Would i be right in thinking that you own one of these Graham?
Also it's a shame that the guy selling the 5K OC81 Supa Fuzz on ebay hasn't posted pictures of the underside of his circuit board. IF (and it's a big if) they are original it would be quite a significant variation and possibly suggest that the unmarked transistors on theemadcap1's supa fuzz are also OC81 instead of OC81D?
Well I have got a very early Vox mk 2 pro (as mentioned by John already) which has exactly the same long board and unmarked metal can trannies as his Supa Fuzz here - I will put a full spread up somewhere soon (Dave and Donovan been talking to me re setting up a decent dedicated mk2 area / page) but noone heard of a early Sola mk2 with 81's as opposed to 81D's - the captain reckons mine and Johns are one and the same board (think thats the right terminology) youll see for yourself tomorrow sometime (although I think I already recently put a shot of my mk2 pro board onto the forum - perhaps on the "other" supafuzz posting )
Re the proto supa fuzz with the close knobs - again tomorrow ok
I saw the pics of the underside of that ebay supafuzz - looks like a little work done but I couldnt tell if the trannies were refitted - they werent sent to me direct so its not my prerogative to post them here - sorry
G
Re: MARSHALL SUPA FUZZES
Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2008 5:24 am
by Graham
Hi Donovan sorry to have not gotten back more promptly to last PM - I knew the old site was ok with the pics off photobucket but didnt understand the nuts and bolts here - it is a lot easier for me to load pics straight over from a pc or in my case using several I now use a nice mini hd unit - half a terrabyte and size of an Ipod!
If you can optimise (I really ought to say if you don't mind the work) then please go ahead by all means - Youd need to explain a little more to me the other stuff - I am basically happy to stick my entire collection up somewhere - not as in boasting - just fun to share and chat to others about the stuff that so interests me - I love the way I am always finding out more here in dribs and drabs and the whole "detective work" vibe gets my heart beating the way bags of powders once used to! It just seemed that stuff was getting dotted about all over the place - perhaps getting given my own playpen (or is that cage) might be fun and I could plod away at my own speed with folks lifting or kicking in whenever! I am terribly keen that there be a thorough online resource where for instance somebody could see the different modelds of Colorsound Power Boost / Overdriver in full detail with sensible comment and discussion - not seeing it as my own personal thing but where - as you had suggested - things were kept reasonably tightly on subject without the drift that is such fun yet screws up the continuity of any attempt at referencing...
One of my major motivations was that I have spent untold hours attempting to glean even minute bits of info on something that catches my eye - often with very little reward! Some of the other guys - Bart in particular and Dragonfly amongst others have done great stuff too and I am not after replicating their work (havent got that kind of patience or work ethic!!) so much as taking it to the next level specifically with the fuzzy stuff - I ought to mention Steve Russels Vintage Hofner site too - its not that strong on the pedals (maybe something we could help with) but is truly inspirational when it comes to small British amps!!!
Maybe I should have said this in a pm - David has been talking about it as well but if you notice the time here (gone5) im a tad insomniacal (and need to turn the bloody laptop off) and had just kicked in here cos I saw your comment .
Cheers - G
ps - despite the criticisms of this supa on the bay its still an important pedal - not too many of them about that early model - and could sound fabulous - also as I mentioned to madcap John - if it transpired the 81's had been planted it wouldnt be any big deal to reinstate a trio of black oc75's at least they are reasonably available - just the seller hasnt helped himself at all with the way hes gone about it slagging Dave and over-egging (and hugely overvaluing) the pedal hes got - you know its nice to have most of the screen printing still legible if youre chasing top dollar!!
Also its a lucky find -a pedal that's 40 plus years old that hasnt had at least some work done on it - comes down to the quality and degree of the work really - I cant stress enough the importance - particularly with the truly rare stuff - of only letting decent people work on your gear and that any restoration really should be kept sympathetic to the pedal!!! (could do with a chap on a high horse emoticon!!) I hate pedal vandalism - you ought to see what was done to an admittedly great sounding blue CMI Tonebender I have !!
Hang the Hotrodders!!!
Re: MARSHALL SUPA FUZZES (Data Dump)
Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2008 3:04 am
by Graham
Sounds cool to me Mr D.
again sorry I spilled it over onto the thread it was five am and i was spun out ! G
Re: MARSHALL SUPA FUZZES (Data Dump)
Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 4:08 am
by Mr. Min T. Fresh
Is that beast yours :shock:
Re: MARSHALL SUPA FUZZES (Data Dump)
Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 2:35 pm
by tatter
Is that Supa Fuzz the 'MKI circuit with crude tone control' that Dave mentions on the Tone Bender History page? Wow that's pretty special. What does this particular pedal sound like compared to your MKI and other Supa Fuzzes?